I'm used to using Copic and wanted something to play around with in my sketchbook and not use my expensive ones. I was really surprised by the quality of these, holy cow!!! I've used MANY different alcohol markers and I thought I landed on winsor and newton brand being my fave... well I tried these and now they are my second to copic. I really like the feel of the nib with copics and refills so thats why they're still number 1 for me but the price is what drives me away to try new. These Ohuhu markers are sooooo nice! The nib is firm but with some pressure bends nicely but not too much like prismacolour markers. The ink is very vibrant and juicy when you get them. I can see the nibs being super durable too. I've tried the spectrum noir and the brush nibs aren't as pointed and fray (some were frayed when I first got them) these on the other hand are all pointed well, no flaws... just amazing markers! Def gonna keep buying these and promoting them on my art social media!